In this episode of convos.dev, Jess and Chris dig into how they're actually using OpenClaw — at work, at home, and in some weirdly elaborate personal setups. Chris walks through his team's multi-agent deployment at Resend, his personal Obsidian-vault task manager run entirely over Signal text messages, and the Mac OS "Claudagotchi" app he built in a weekend to babysit Claude Code. Jess shares her more permissions-cautious approach, pushes back on the complexity, and they compare notes on context, cost, and where this stuff actually earns its keep.